not all clients are created equal
Before beginning to type this (is it still called typing?) I took a look back at the comments and some emails received after last week’s post on image rights. The plan for today was to talk about a few general pricing scenarios but I see now (and understand) that more than a few readers may have been “left at the station”. I think it would be valuable to back up a bit and discuss pricing and the value of photography in a broader sense. Without an underlying understanding of value, specific pricing methods have little relevance to those trying to grasp conversations on pricing.
I also want to add that it feels a bit awkward talking about pricing / money at the moment. Talk at the studio hasn’t been about photography lately, it’s been about the economy. Effects of the recession are becoming more visible and the news on cnnmoney.com hasn’t been particularly comforting. The Tribune newspapers have declared bankruptcy and NBC is mulling a cutback in broadcast hours. Many of us are feeling the sands of value shifting beneath our feet as spending on advertising contracts.
But, keeping on topic, let’s start here: some photographs are more valuable than others and not all clients are created equal. But how do you qualify the client? Regardless of how we charge for photography, it’s important for those just starting out to understand just why their photographs may provide greater or lesser value to a client.
Last week we discussed charging usage fees for commercial photography. In this model the photographer charges a creation fee and expenses to create images for a client. An additional licensing fee is then assessed based on the specific uses and distribution of the photographs.
There was a great deal of quality response on the subject, from both the photographer and client perspectives. I couldn’t have been happier with the diversity of comments. They represent a variety of approaches on how the cost of photography is packaged, each of which is working well for the respective commenter. This points out that there’s not one single way to price commercial photography.
When I first started out many years ago, charging for the specific usage of photography was stressed by my elders. I didn’t get it. As newer photographers come into the fold, I see the same blank stare in their eyes when usage is discussed. I felt that same confusion until finally a photographer explained it in a way that made sense.
He told me of a simple but iconic photograph (of a menu item) he’d taken for a local restaurant chain. If I remember correctly, he cleared a one-time sum total of a few hundred dollars after expenses (this was ‘84 or so) to shoot the image. The photo originally appeared on a menu. Then it became an important part of the company’s advertising campaign. It subsequently showed up on billboards, newspaper ads, the sides of buses and television ads. And, because it was so simple and well done, it was used for a number of years.
He began to add up the money that was spent in support of the use of the image, which was a central part of the company’s advertising campaign. All of the ad buys and additional design costs surely ran into six figures. Though the photograph was a proportionately large element in each ad it received a tiny fraction of the budget.
You‘re probably familiar with the term “impressions“. This is the number of people that view something, like a website or The Superbowl. Why is TV advertising time so expensive during The Superbowl? Tons of people watch it. This is the same reason that TV advertising is relatively inexpensive in the wee hours of the morning…not many people watching. So, it can be argued that the more people that are “watching” your photograph, the more value it has.
That’s a little background on why the use of an image plays a role in it‘s value. I’ll be the first to admit that the example given by this photographer presents an extreme to an aspiring young photographer…but it really makes the point.
But, as we’re all aware, not all clients and jobs are created equal. We have a couple of regular clients that drop off small products (cans with labels on them) at our studio a couple of times a month. Their business-to-business market is small and the uses are predictable and limited. As for the life of the photos, they change product labels yearly, which immediately renders the old images obsolete. Yep, these types of photos are often equated to “widgets”, photography as a simple product. The value that can be placed on the “use” part of this pricing equation is pretty darn small because (even in my wildest dreams) they aren’t likely to end up on a billboard or consumer advertising.
These are two extremes of how an image may be used and I hope it sheds light on how the use of an image can influence value, in addition to the time it takes to create the photograph and the experience the photographer brings to the job.
As for me, I’m going to turn off the financial websites and evening news for awhile. With the holidays almost here it’s a good time to take a break from thinking too much about money and reconnect with the simple joy of taking photographs.
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Im new to this site, but have been checking it daily ever since! Keep up the good work! Pricing is always something i’ve struggled with as I try to jump into the game. I have several friends who are into the stock photography game. My main problem is that they’re basically giving away their fantastic images!!! One of my friends sold one of his images and cleared a WHOPPING $0.20….and it was used in a HUGELY popular magazine that is very widely distributed…..I dread that!
What I would like to know is this.. Example.. I make an image of an object for a client and give him the rights to use it as he see’s fit. How much should I charge him for this service in Plain ole dollar and cents.
When I first started selling prints, I felt guilty for charging. Got over that one! Now, I can’t imagine pricing out rights, simply because of trust. My question goes beyond pricing… do you baby sit the photographs to make sure that what you sold them for is all they’re being used for? Such as you sold license for print brochure, but the brochure ends up on the website, either as a picture of it (showcasing your photography clearly), or in digital form? Do you keep an eye out, or am I just paranoid? Is this something you keep in mind when pricing? I’ve had copious amounts of Mt. Dew, so apologies if this is rambled together.
I often thought that when you sell an image and told the client that it was his/hers that he/she could do with it what they wanted to after all when you give them the rights to do so it is there image and I the photographer do no longer own it and am not responsible for what they use it for, but my question is How much do you charge for your services. Is there a pricing guide out there some where. I would like to know where the starting point is or do we just throw a figure out there like when you try to buy or sell something in a flea market. I heard of photographers say they got a cover, a quarter page , haalf page, full page, double truck but never any figures to go with it. Is there a secret society we can join to find out what these figures are? {PLEASE HELP!!!
Hey, Elzora, it’s good to hear from you while you’re “doing the Dew”! There’s no scientific method for tracking how images are re-used…at the moment. But we’re getting close. ASMP is working with a couple of new online image tracking services that sound like they have great potential. This doesn’t help with print uses, though. Ad agencies are generally good about contact for additional usage but I know of no clear cut way to deal with client-direct. Hopefully they turn into repeat clients and continual contact aids the tracking of images.
In the music world there’s ASCAP, an organization that tracks the playing of music so that composers, writers and musicians all get paid when their music gets played. It’s a pretty tidy setup that has worked for the music world for a number of decades. It would be great if photographers and visual artists had a similar “watch dog” organization.
Jim, I feel your pain, I’ve been there. I loved your “flea market” analogy, that will stick with me forever. Pricing is part formula / part flea market. Sorry there’s not a simple answer.
One of the first parts of pricing is determining what you have to make to be profitable, then what the market will bear and what value it brings to your client. If you’re willing to do a little homework it will start to become clearer. I would suggest following the article links on this page (if you haven’t already) to get started, starting at the bottom and working your way up.
And I often recommend this book because the first edition of it many years ago was a huge help for me: Pricing Photography: The Complete Guide to Assignment & Stock Prices. It hasn’t been updated in a while but it explains pricing better than anything else I’ve ever seen.
There’s a goldmine of info and business resources on the ASMP website, including an editorial photography estimator. This is good info that should keep you engaged for hours. You’ll also find a link to several programs and databases that help with pricing photography.
I hope this helps make sense of some of the mystery out of the what / why / how of pricing.
Thanks for the wealth of resources! I’m in my first year of business and pricing is constantly a challenge.