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		<title>By: Spence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is more to image quality than MP for sure. I have both a Canon 300d and a 10D. Now they both have a 6mp sensor but they take very different photo's. The 300d takes a lovely photo until you take the same photo with the 10D then you really see the colour and detail punch you in the face. But they were both totally different prices and aimed at different markets. 

So, that leaves a question, is it better the buy a used ex-pro camera or the latest new consumer camera???

As for me? well I'm sticking the to the 10 and saving my pennys for some better lenses....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is more to image quality than MP for sure. I have both a Canon 300d and a 10D. Now they both have a 6mp sensor but they take very different photo&#8217;s. The 300d takes a lovely photo until you take the same photo with the 10D then you really see the colour and detail punch you in the face. But they were both totally different prices and aimed at different markets. </p>
<p>So, that leaves a question, is it better the buy a used ex-pro camera or the latest new consumer camera???</p>
<p>As for me? well I&#8217;m sticking the to the 10 and saving my pennys for some better lenses&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More megapixels are nice for wildlife, because then you don't have to spend the extra $$ for a 600mm lens, when you can get a 400mm lens and crop the image.  That's the major upside of the Pentax K20D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More megapixels are nice for wildlife, because then you don&#8217;t have to spend the extra $$ for a 600mm lens, when you can get a 400mm lens and crop the image.  That&#8217;s the major upside of the Pentax K20D.</p>
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		<title>By: Piezo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piezo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you start by looking at it from the right side, the lens. Today the lens usually is the limiting factor. Well, even on a 6mp DSLR you will see difference between a cheap consumer zoom and a more expensive one, or a fix focal. There is actually something called "System Resolution", the resulting res. of both sensor and lens. The SR is not the worst of the two, neither the average of the two. But SR is overcourse to what i want to say, and that is about magnification ratio of the resolution the lens can deliver. Something people seem to forget when talking sensor size and megapixels. 

Sharpness of a lens is often measured in lpmm, thats Lines Per Millimeter. Usually it is measured in "real life" contrasts, the lines are not pitch black and pure white, rather two shades of grey. A fairly good lens will achieve about 60 lpmm at its sweet spot around f8. Now to the important part, it does not matter what size of sensor the lens is made for, the glass will not perform better with a smaller or bigger sensor. So lets say we have quite good lens with 60 lpmm as input. Now think of two cases of capturing theese 60 lpmm. One on a 18 mm wide sensor, one on a 36 mm wide. Then print this image 1 meter wide. 

In the small 18 mm sensor case, the captured resolution will be enlarged 55 times (18x55=~1000). The 60 lpmm from the lens will thus be reduced 55 times, to 1 lpmm in the print (60/55=~1). Now lets look at the bigger 36 mm sensor. That captured resolution will be enlarged only 28 times, so the captured 60 lpmm from the lens will only be reduced to 2. That is twise the resolution in final print. But this does not hold up in the real world, but i think you got the point. The reason that it is not true IRL, is that mentioned System Resolution. More megapixels and everything else the same, will rise the SR, but not as much as you think, the same goes for the lens. If you have a crappy res. and want to double it, you want get dobble by a twise asa sharp lens, neither with a twise res. sensor. Both have to be upgraded. But if you allready have the best lenses and jam packed pixels on the sensor, physical size on the sensor is the only way forward. It is like they say about cars, nothing beat cubic (size) inches. Heres &lt;a href="http://www.photonics.com/content/handbook/2007/detectors/88035.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;an article about system resolution&lt;/a&gt; for those willing to take the overcourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you start by looking at it from the right side, the lens. Today the lens usually is the limiting factor. Well, even on a 6mp DSLR you will see difference between a cheap consumer zoom and a more expensive one, or a fix focal. There is actually something called &#8220;System Resolution&#8221;, the resulting res. of both sensor and lens. The SR is not the worst of the two, neither the average of the two. But SR is overcourse to what i want to say, and that is about magnification ratio of the resolution the lens can deliver. Something people seem to forget when talking sensor size and megapixels. </p>
<p>Sharpness of a lens is often measured in lpmm, thats Lines Per Millimeter. Usually it is measured in &#8220;real life&#8221; contrasts, the lines are not pitch black and pure white, rather two shades of grey. A fairly good lens will achieve about 60 lpmm at its sweet spot around f8. Now to the important part, it does not matter what size of sensor the lens is made for, the glass will not perform better with a smaller or bigger sensor. So lets say we have quite good lens with 60 lpmm as input. Now think of two cases of capturing theese 60 lpmm. One on a 18 mm wide sensor, one on a 36 mm wide. Then print this image 1 meter wide. </p>
<p>In the small 18 mm sensor case, the captured resolution will be enlarged 55 times (18&#215;55=~1000). The 60 lpmm from the lens will thus be reduced 55 times, to 1 lpmm in the print (60/55=~1). Now lets look at the bigger 36 mm sensor. That captured resolution will be enlarged only 28 times, so the captured 60 lpmm from the lens will only be reduced to 2. That is twise the resolution in final print. But this does not hold up in the real world, but i think you got the point. The reason that it is not true IRL, is that mentioned System Resolution. More megapixels and everything else the same, will rise the SR, but not as much as you think, the same goes for the lens. If you have a crappy res. and want to double it, you want get dobble by a twise asa sharp lens, neither with a twise res. sensor. Both have to be upgraded. But if you allready have the best lenses and jam packed pixels on the sensor, physical size on the sensor is the only way forward. It is like they say about cars, nothing beat cubic (size) inches. Heres <a href="http://www.photonics.com/content/handbook/2007/detectors/88035.aspx" rel="nofollow">an article about system resolution</a> for those willing to take the overcourse.</p>
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		<title>By: Eduar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eduar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are features that attract me: In camera and off camera.

In camera it would be the precision of the AF system, Image quality and ergonomics.

Off camera would be the lens at my disposal and their price, as an example Olympus has fewer lenses -less options for specialized shootings- and they are more expensive than what you find in the top 3 camera makers... and this should be taken into account when buying a camera "Are the lenses competitively priced and have great quality?", "I need this lens for (wedding, portraiture, photojournalism, landscape, etc) is it available in this brand or do I have to rely on 3rd party lenses??"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are features that attract me: In camera and off camera.</p>
<p>In camera it would be the precision of the AF system, Image quality and ergonomics.</p>
<p>Off camera would be the lens at my disposal and their price, as an example Olympus has fewer lenses -less options for specialized shootings- and they are more expensive than what you find in the top 3 camera makers&#8230; and this should be taken into account when buying a camera &#8220;Are the lenses competitively priced and have great quality?&#8221;, &#8220;I need this lens for (wedding, portraiture, photojournalism, landscape, etc) is it available in this brand or do I have to rely on 3rd party lenses??&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Obvious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Obvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Megapixels are a bit like seatbelts:
Maybe most of the shots you get don't need 'em
( if 1/50 is good enough to show a client... )

... but when you *do*...

If I could get a camera that shot at 0.1 Mpx when my shots were not good enough, or mistimed, or out of focus, but automagically switches to 20 Mpx when everything comes together,
my card'd never fill up quick enough to force me to change 'em in a single shoot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megapixels are a bit like seatbelts:<br />
Maybe most of the shots you get don&#8217;t need &#8216;em<br />
( if 1/50 is good enough to show a client&#8230; )</p>
<p>&#8230; but when you *do*&#8230;</p>
<p>If I could get a camera that shot at 0.1 Mpx when my shots were not good enough, or mistimed, or out of focus, but automagically switches to 20 Mpx when everything comes together,<br />
my card&#8217;d never fill up quick enough to force me to change &#8216;em in a single shoot!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Talkington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Talkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my personal work, 6 MP is perfectly fine. I like printing 6" x 9" and rarely crop an image, preferring to print full frame. 

The studio is a pretty different world. Art Directors seem to want the best of both worlds, always saying "shoot looser, leave more room around the subject so there's plenty of bleed and I can move it around in the layout". Then, two days later, they point to some little detail and say, "now, I can blow that part up to full page, can't I?". Uh, yeah, right...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my personal work, 6 MP is perfectly fine. I like printing 6&#8243; x 9&#8243; and rarely crop an image, preferring to print full frame. </p>
<p>The studio is a pretty different world. Art Directors seem to want the best of both worlds, always saying &#8220;shoot looser, leave more room around the subject so there&#8217;s plenty of bleed and I can move it around in the layout&#8221;. Then, two days later, they point to some little detail and say, &#8220;now, I can blow that part up to full page, can&#8217;t I?&#8221;. Uh, yeah, right&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thought, Mike-

I will often capture an image that looks much better when cropping serves to change the aspect ratio - get to pretend I own one of those high end medium format digital backs.  That may never happen, but a nice square photo does the trick from time to time.  The additional MPs help preserve a good sized print.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thought, Mike-</p>
<p>I will often capture an image that looks much better when cropping serves to change the aspect ratio - get to pretend I own one of those high end medium format digital backs.  That may never happen, but a nice square photo does the trick from time to time.  The additional MPs help preserve a good sized print.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, I'm with you on cropping if the shot is good or if you got a great expression, but didn't have time to compose because it was i spur of the moment thing. What I was trying to say is that justifying a camera purchase based on MPs for cropping is setting yourself up for a disaster. But cropping an occasional shot or shooting loose so the client has play room is by no means a faux pas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, I&#8217;m with you on cropping if the shot is good or if you got a great expression, but didn&#8217;t have time to compose because it was i spur of the moment thing. What I was trying to say is that justifying a camera purchase based on MPs for cropping is setting yourself up for a disaster. But cropping an occasional shot or shooting loose so the client has play room is by no means a faux pas.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark from Australia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark from Australia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't care less about MP . I have had work published from my old 640 X 480 sensor point and shoot.  from 2mp , 4 mp  8 mp and now from my Canon Digital Rebel. I have even made acceptable 8 foot tall posters from the Canon.

Firstly I look for Ease of use. I have big hands and some buttons are just in the wrong place on some cameras. even the Digital rebel is not perfectly laid out for my fingers but I am getting there! 

Next I look for versatility. I still shoot every day with a point and shoot but it has a superb range of settings that when you get to know lets you create simply stunning photos. but it really peeves me that I forgot to check if it had a viewfinder even though it was definitely on my wish list so low light work is hit and miss. It is lucky I like surprises!

I have grown to love the Richness of colour and the relatively low noise of the Canon Digital Rebel compared to my previous cameras but I didn't even consider that till I bought it and discovered it for myself.

in the future I'd look for Bluetooth tethering, built in remote flash syncronisation(multi channel, improved Dynamic range, improved noise reduction, improved resolution (not necessarily more MP) and faster memory chip uploads and downloads.

in the software dept it would be nice if we couled upload software packs to the camera.... eg If i want to develop my skills with the ZONE system it would be nice if the camera had a tutorial mode and  s ZONE system assist mode.

THis could be incorporated with a more advanced in viewfinder HUD.

Maybe I should work for canon and teach those  guys about how creativity starts in the head!

thanks for a fab blog and tutorials</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t care less about MP . I have had work published from my old 640 X 480 sensor point and shoot.  from 2mp , 4 mp  8 mp and now from my Canon Digital Rebel. I have even made acceptable 8 foot tall posters from the Canon.</p>
<p>Firstly I look for Ease of use. I have big hands and some buttons are just in the wrong place on some cameras. even the Digital rebel is not perfectly laid out for my fingers but I am getting there! </p>
<p>Next I look for versatility. I still shoot every day with a point and shoot but it has a superb range of settings that when you get to know lets you create simply stunning photos. but it really peeves me that I forgot to check if it had a viewfinder even though it was definitely on my wish list so low light work is hit and miss. It is lucky I like surprises!</p>
<p>I have grown to love the Richness of colour and the relatively low noise of the Canon Digital Rebel compared to my previous cameras but I didn&#8217;t even consider that till I bought it and discovered it for myself.</p>
<p>in the future I&#8217;d look for Bluetooth tethering, built in remote flash syncronisation(multi channel, improved Dynamic range, improved noise reduction, improved resolution (not necessarily more MP) and faster memory chip uploads and downloads.</p>
<p>in the software dept it would be nice if we couled upload software packs to the camera&#8230;. eg If i want to develop my skills with the ZONE system it would be nice if the camera had a tutorial mode and  s ZONE system assist mode.</p>
<p>THis could be incorporated with a more advanced in viewfinder HUD.</p>
<p>Maybe I should work for canon and teach those  guys about how creativity starts in the head!</p>
<p>thanks for a fab blog and tutorials</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike C-

In the perfect world, I agree with you 100%.  But as we all know, when you finally identify that "primo shot" of the 200 you to put on a card, a bit of cropping may be needed.  Within the last few weeks Jim put up some great pre-cropped shots of an actor in a variety of costumes.  So if that one great expression was otherwise in need of cropping, you trash the shot?  I like the extra MPs if I need to crop a bit.  "Hope for the best; plan for the worst."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike C-</p>
<p>In the perfect world, I agree with you 100%.  But as we all know, when you finally identify that &#8220;primo shot&#8221; of the 200 you to put on a card, a bit of cropping may be needed.  Within the last few weeks Jim put up some great pre-cropped shots of an actor in a variety of costumes.  So if that one great expression was otherwise in need of cropping, you trash the shot?  I like the extra MPs if I need to crop a bit.  &#8220;Hope for the best; plan for the worst.&#8221;</p>
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