Home » business

business: avoiding the “ballpark price”

11 June 2008 3 Comments

Portrait and wedding photographers usually have a price list. Want to know how much something costs? It’s there on the price list. Public relations photographers may charge by the hour. For commercial photographers it can get a bit more complicated because most every job is different. Sometimes it’s hard to know where to start and what questions to ask.

blinkbid screen capture
Last week I referred to Blinkbid software and how it greatly aids thinking through a job. Here’s a screen capture from the soon-to-be-released new version. How ’bout those numbers?

Most of our clients come to us by way of referral. What’s the best way to market yourself? Do a good job every time out and the referrals will come in. Many of our new client relationships begin with a phone call they’ve placed to us, often in a hurry and under a deadline. They need photography, need it quickly and were told that we can get the job done. Our instincts are to respond quickly to help them out but we need to slow the process down enough to make sure it’s done correctly.

The client, though, may be pressuring you for a price on the spot. “Just give me a ballpark”, they say. I hardly ever give out a ballpark price. I respond to this request in one of two ways:

  1. “I need to talk it over with my business partner, we always work together on this part of the process. Let me have your email address and I’ll get something down in writing and have it to you by noon. ” The beauty of this is that you don’t actually need a business partner but this can buy you the time necessary to think things through.
  2. The other thing I may say is “pricing is all done through my software, I need to run the job through it to get the numbers together. Why don’t I do that and email something to you in, say, an hour?”.

This approach works 99% of the time, buying the time to ask proper questions, think things through and get something down in writing. If they absolutely, positively, must have a number at that very moment, I can pretty much assume that their major concern isn’t quality, it’s pretty much all about price. You may want to get your foot in the door with this client and be willing to do the job inexpensively in order to get future work and, hopefully, to raise your prices. This rarely pans out. If you do try to raise rates down the road they often just go back to their list of photographers and find the next person willing to work inexpensively. Just be aware of this going in.

Agreeing to a rushed price also often leaves the photographer backed into a corner. If you’ve ever taken photos as a favor then you know what I mean. When you do get on the job it can change and the client begins throwing curve balls and change ups. Once I’m on a job I don’t like to discuss money, I prefer to concentrate on photography. A well written estimate allows me to do this, even if the job appears simple at the outset.


Macbook, Macbook Pro, iMac and iPod Sale!

In the “can I charge for that” post I talked about the basic charges our studio has for commercial work. Different charges for creative fees, file processing, delivery of images, crew, etc. Matthew B. asked if new clients ever balked at seeing this laundry list of charges. Yes, they sometimes do but I feel it’s necessary to give them a detailed estimate, especially when starting a relationship with a new client. They often don’t know exactly what they want or need and I help point them in a certain direction, based on experience.

Next week we’ll look at the questions we ask a new client in order to determine their needs and come up with an accurate estimate.

3 Comments »

  • Matthew Botos said:

    Thanks for coming back to this subject, Jim! It always seems that the business side of photography is much more elusive than the artistic side.

    Another advantage to your approach is that a detailed, written estimate appears more solid and less negotiable than a verbal ballpark figure.

  • Craig Lee said:

    I have personally been on the loosing side of rushed, “ballpark” figures. It isn’t unusual for something to come up that changes the scope of work even on the best planned jobs. Unplanned, rushed jobs seem to have a greater chance of unexpected conditions.

    Slowing the process down like this can help to reassure the client that you will be able to control and handle a hectic, hair-pulling, high pressure job. That is a quality-minded client would be reassured. One that just wants a low-end price isn’t as worried about the quality and will shop prices around for his next job anyway. The quality minded client though, will remember that you helped them out of a difficult position and be more inclinded to send more work to you in the future.

  • Jim Talkington (author) said:

    I do at least a quick, written email estimate even for clients that have become friends and just want a quick job done. Heck, the first thing Bob and I did when we started Daylight Photo was to put together a partnership agreement. It’s just easier that way because expectations are well understood by both parties.

    And I agree, Matthew, it makes the pricing more rock solid. If the client asks me to lower the overall price, I tell them that’s fine, let’s pull out the estimate and see what services they would like to cut. More often than not nothing gets cut, the job goes through at the estimated price, and they’re so happy they add more final files to the end of the job. Good deal!

    To your point, Craig, as professional photographers we only get one chance to make a good (professional) first impression. They may not end up sending us all of their work…just the good, profitable stuff. :)

Leave your response!

Add your comment below, or trackback from your own site. You can also subscribe to these comments via RSS.

Be nice. Keep it clean. Stay on topic. No spam.

You can use these tags:
<a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>

This is a Gravatar-enabled weblog. To get your own globally-recognized-avatar, please register at Gravatar.