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		<title>By: Jim Talkington</title>
		<link>http://www.prophotolife.com/2008/04/15/tech-battle-of-the-bulbs-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-6676</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Talkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quantum, I am SO sorry this thread got lost in the shuffle. I hope it&#039;s not too late to be of some help. You&#039;re at the top of the list, man, if you ever need anything else. If it is too late to help you out on this particular post then I&#039;ll leave some thoughts anyway, to help the next person through. And thanks, Corey, for bringing this back to life. 

I wasn&#039;t able to put a color meter to the various light sources but there shouldn&#039;t be any problem with mixing the spiral flourescent daylight balanced lamps and the strobe. A simple visual check puts them almost right on when it comes to a match. FYI, the flash is putting out 5500K so lamps should be as close to that as possible. 

As far as output, let&#039;s use f8 as a target, usable aperture for your use. Doing the math, I come up with needing 8 of the 27 watt bulbs to get to 1/60 at f8 if the lights are 4 feet from the wall. So, wow, that&#039;s a lot of bulbs. Let&#039;s bump the ISO up to 200 so we only need 4 bulbs at 27 watts, or a total of 108 watts of comparable spiral flourescent output. 

Unfortunately, adding the diffusion fabric is going to cut down light output by at least 1 stop. And, possibly, 4 feet may not be enough of a working distance for you to work with for your subject.

Taking it all into account I&#039;d probably approach it this way:

1. No problem with mixing the spiral fluorescents and the strobe, it should work just fine. The diffusion fabric will most likely warm the color balance slightly but should cause no problem. 
2. It&#039;s going to take a lot of bulb power!  I&#039;d suggest buying at least two of the largest spiral fluorescents you can find locally and do a test. Even then it might not be enough to give a good working aperture and shutter speed. 
3. If you&#039;re shooting people and not still objects, definitely go for using all strobes if you can. Constant lighting is beautiful and easy to visualize, but strobes should provide a wider range of working apertures and a crisp image every time. 

Whew, that&#039;s it...months late! Again, sorry about that and thanks for sticking around. Now if I could just catch up with all the emails...:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quantum, I am SO sorry this thread got lost in the shuffle. I hope it&#8217;s not too late to be of some help. You&#8217;re at the top of the list, man, if you ever need anything else. If it is too late to help you out on this particular post then I&#8217;ll leave some thoughts anyway, to help the next person through. And thanks, Corey, for bringing this back to life. </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t able to put a color meter to the various light sources but there shouldn&#8217;t be any problem with mixing the spiral flourescent daylight balanced lamps and the strobe. A simple visual check puts them almost right on when it comes to a match. FYI, the flash is putting out 5500K so lamps should be as close to that as possible. </p>
<p>As far as output, let&#8217;s use f8 as a target, usable aperture for your use. Doing the math, I come up with needing 8 of the 27 watt bulbs to get to 1/60 at f8 if the lights are 4 feet from the wall. So, wow, that&#8217;s a lot of bulbs. Let&#8217;s bump the ISO up to 200 so we only need 4 bulbs at 27 watts, or a total of 108 watts of comparable spiral flourescent output. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, adding the diffusion fabric is going to cut down light output by at least 1 stop. And, possibly, 4 feet may not be enough of a working distance for you to work with for your subject.</p>
<p>Taking it all into account I&#8217;d probably approach it this way:</p>
<p>1. No problem with mixing the spiral fluorescents and the strobe, it should work just fine. The diffusion fabric will most likely warm the color balance slightly but should cause no problem.<br />
2. It&#8217;s going to take a lot of bulb power!  I&#8217;d suggest buying at least two of the largest spiral fluorescents you can find locally and do a test. Even then it might not be enough to give a good working aperture and shutter speed.<br />
3. If you&#8217;re shooting people and not still objects, definitely go for using all strobes if you can. Constant lighting is beautiful and easy to visualize, but strobes should provide a wider range of working apertures and a crisp image every time. </p>
<p>Whew, that&#8217;s it&#8230;months late! Again, sorry about that and thanks for sticking around. Now if I could just catch up with all the emails&#8230;:)</p>
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		<title>By: Øuantum³</title>
		<link>http://www.prophotolife.com/2008/04/15/tech-battle-of-the-bulbs-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-6674</link>
		<dc:creator>Øuantum³</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feeling bro. He replyed to lot of comments, but mine was like &quot;see the F.A.Q.&quot;. I understand how busy could be this cool guy, but well... I keep enjoying his videos :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feeling bro. He replyed to lot of comments, but mine was like &#8220;see the F.A.Q.&#8221;. I understand how busy could be this cool guy, but well&#8230; I keep enjoying his videos <img src='http://www.prophotolife.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://www.prophotolife.com/2008/04/15/tech-battle-of-the-bulbs-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-6657</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Quantum :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Quantum <img src='http://www.prophotolife.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Øuantum³</title>
		<link>http://www.prophotolife.com/2008/04/15/tech-battle-of-the-bulbs-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-1214</link>
		<dc:creator>Øuantum³</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still without replies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still without replies?</p>
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		<title>By: Øuantum³</title>
		<link>http://www.prophotolife.com/2008/04/15/tech-battle-of-the-bulbs-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-345</link>
		<dc:creator>Øuantum³</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No body replayed my question... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No body replayed my question&#8230; <img src='http://www.prophotolife.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GE Lamps</title>
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		<dc:creator>GE Lamps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is very much useful for all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is very much useful for all</p>
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		<title>By: Gnurple dot Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CFL vs. Incandescent: The Bulb Shoot-out Continues</title>
		<link>http://www.prophotolife.com/2008/04/15/tech-battle-of-the-bulbs-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Gnurple dot Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CFL vs. Incandescent: The Bulb Shoot-out Continues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 05:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on 02 May 2008 at 19:47 &#160; pro photo life &#187; Blog Archive &#187; tech: battle of the bulbs shootout [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Talkington</title>
		<link>http://www.prophotolife.com/2008/04/15/tech-battle-of-the-bulbs-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Talkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 00:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod, those are all great questions. I&#039;ve just posted a followup to the site (and have included a link to it on this post) that addresses the color spectrum differences of compact fluorescent vs. incandescent. It is a very informative article written by contributor NormMonkey and I hope you find it helpful. 

As for your other questions, the answers admittedly exceed my knowledge (without lengthy research) and your inquiries dive deeper than I had intended to go. The study of light (the very basis of photography) is a complex study and, in the context of using these bulbs in a budget lighting setup, I hadn&#039;t considered your questions. 

My intention was to show the pattern of light from each bulb (in the same reflector), the relative apertures at the chosen shutter speed and the visual color differences on a neutral background. I can see how my intentions failed to answer your questions.

Many of my posts are intended to help readers begin a journey and I&#039;m sorry this one failed to deliver you to a final destination. It has provoked thought for many, I&#039;m sure, and that&#039;s the key to learning. Please let me know if you have any additional knowledge on the subject to share with readers, I&#039;d be happy link to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod, those are all great questions. I&#8217;ve just posted a followup to the site (and have included a link to it on this post) that addresses the color spectrum differences of compact fluorescent vs. incandescent. It is a very informative article written by contributor NormMonkey and I hope you find it helpful. </p>
<p>As for your other questions, the answers admittedly exceed my knowledge (without lengthy research) and your inquiries dive deeper than I had intended to go. The study of light (the very basis of photography) is a complex study and, in the context of using these bulbs in a budget lighting setup, I hadn&#8217;t considered your questions. </p>
<p>My intention was to show the pattern of light from each bulb (in the same reflector), the relative apertures at the chosen shutter speed and the visual color differences on a neutral background. I can see how my intentions failed to answer your questions.</p>
<p>Many of my posts are intended to help readers begin a journey and I&#8217;m sorry this one failed to deliver you to a final destination. It has provoked thought for many, I&#8217;m sure, and that&#8217;s the key to learning. Please let me know if you have any additional knowledge on the subject to share with readers, I&#8217;d be happy link to it.</p>
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		<title>By: pro photo life &#187; Blog Archive &#187; tech update: NormMonkey updates the battle of the bulbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>pro photo life &#187; Blog Archive &#187; tech update: NormMonkey updates the battle of the bulbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 23:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recent DIYPhotography.net post on the very cool DIY Alex Spiderlight also pointed to my earlier battle of the bulbs shootout post, to illustrate some bulb options and comparisons for Alex Campagna&#8217;s creation. There [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] recent DIYPhotography.net post on the very cool DIY Alex Spiderlight also pointed to my earlier battle of the bulbs shootout post, to illustrate some bulb options and comparisons for Alex Campagna&#8217;s creation. There [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try, but the light bulb comparison is rather pointless from my point of view. The only thing it really compares is the &quot;coverage&quot; and which WB preset works best with each bulb. 

These facts are kinda needless, as coverage depends on the power of each bulb and maybe on the used reflector, the proper white balance can be adjusted with most cameras. Unfortunately, more interesting questions remain unanswered, such as the spectra of the light (will all colors be  reproduced properly?) and the tendency of the light sources to flicker in the frequency of the supplied electricity. And last but not least the stability of the color temperature over the life time of each bulb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try, but the light bulb comparison is rather pointless from my point of view. The only thing it really compares is the &#8220;coverage&#8221; and which WB preset works best with each bulb. </p>
<p>These facts are kinda needless, as coverage depends on the power of each bulb and maybe on the used reflector, the proper white balance can be adjusted with most cameras. Unfortunately, more interesting questions remain unanswered, such as the spectra of the light (will all colors be  reproduced properly?) and the tendency of the light sources to flicker in the frequency of the supplied electricity. And last but not least the stability of the color temperature over the life time of each bulb.</p>
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